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 | FarmerWannabe
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2001-06-13 29226
I recently purchased a spreader with a lawn tractor type hitch. What do I need to hook this up to my tractor? I don't have any kind of draw bar and wondered if there was some universal type that I could purchase. Thanks for any advice.Also, the previous owner warned me that is VERY important to keep the axle greased (it has two fittings) because it gets hot quickly due to the weight. He said that even if I keep it greased I can expect to have to replace this part in the future. Is this a design flaw or is there anything I can do to extend the life of this part? Thanks again
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| kay
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2001-06-13 29230
We wanna help, but without some more information, we can only guess at what you are asking. What type of spreader-manure, lawn fertilizer?, how big? What tractor? What kind of weight are you thinking you will have on the axle? I would think most tractors have a drawbar available, or you might be able to put one in the ends of the 3pt lift arms. Can you help us out, so we can help you out? ....
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| Nick
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2001-06-13 29236
Farmer Wannabe ; If you have a 3 point hitch I make 3 point hitch adapter so that you can use your 3 point hitch for a drawbar or it has a 2 inch receiver like on a truck hitch. I sell them for $125 with free shipping. If you are interested I well e mail pictures. ....
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| David Keith
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2001-06-13 29248
nicks 3 point hitch reciever sounds like a deal
northerntool.com has one that sounds similar
part number 12469-C159 but theirs is $199.99 Plus shipping
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| TomG
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2001-06-14 29257
A tractor with no drawbar? I'm not aware of a compact without one, but then I don't know that many compacts. Possibly a missing drawbar. It's pretty easy to take them off entirely. I took the top-plate off mine to accommodate a 3ph hoe mount, so it might not be recognizable if somebody was looking for a drawbar hitch. ....
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| FarmerWannabe
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2001-06-21 29482
Thanks for all the advice. I went ahead and purchased a drawbar that fits between my two three point arms. HOWEVER, my arms have ball joints that allow them to swing freely left to right. I think this will make backing up extremely difficult (I already am not very good). Am I wrong or is there a way to keep the arms from swinging left to right? Or do I need arms w/o ball joints? I am thinking about returning the drawbar if I can't get this figured out... ....
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| TomG
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2001-06-22 29509
Sounds like what you have is a receiver that mounts on the 3ph. Most lift arms have anti-sway chains to limit lateral movement of the arms. The amount of sway is adjustable by turn-buckles on the chains. Should work OK, but I guess this isn't a PTO powered spreader, or there may be problems with the length of the PTO shaft. My drawbar is a heavy flat bar in a carriage on the bottom of the cases that runs forward to a pivot point mounting. The bar is free to move side to side, but pins may be placed in the carriage to limit lateral movement. The bar can be used in a normal or extended position. The extended position is used for PTO implements where the implement needs to be further from the tractor to accommodate the PTO shaft. You should be aware that most safety publications say that the drawbar is the only safe point of attachment for pulling, because the drawbar is below axle level. The 3ph lift arms attach above the axles and provide leverage to lift the front wheels under heavy loads. A 3ph implement is designed to counteract this lift by applying force towards the tractor through the top-link. Although people do it, just keep in mind that it is not safe to pull from the lift arms. Safe is, of course, a relative term. ....
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| kay
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2001-06-22 29524
Tom Pardon me for even thinking it, but your message seemed to me to add confusion to this issue.
What tractor do you have that the 3pt lift arms attach to the tractor above the axle? All mine have attached below the axle, not above. There are links that are made (used to be for 8N fords at least) that are solid, flat steel and link the ends of the flat drawbar (that Wannabe has) between the ends attached to the lift arms and convene at the top arm connection at the tractor (i.e. the lift arm is not used). This restricts the 3pt so it cannot lift, fixes the drawbar fro lateral movement, and while being farther back than the regular drawbar you describe, is not an unsafe feature for pulling. Wannabe still hasn't let us in on the secret of what type of spreader he is referring to, or what kind of tractor he has. We can't be of much direct help if he wants to keep his secrets. ....
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| FarmerWannabe
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2001-06-22 29527
Kay, you confuse my ignorance with secrecy.
I have a Kubota b7200D (17hp) w 4wd. I do not know what brand of spreader I have but it is NOT PTO driven which relates to the earlier question about the axle overheating. It has 2 wheels. The spreader at the back is driven from gears connected to the wheels. The plastic movers that run along the bottom are driven by a belt that is connected to the wheels.
I was finally able to hook it up to the hitch below my PTO using a pin. I am very bad at backing however so I purchased a hitch or draw bar that fits on the two side arms of my 3ph. I did this thinking that by connecting behind my tractor tires I could maneuver better. My concern is that with the loose side to side movement my 3ph arms allow (I don't have any chains) my problems may be worse rather than better! ....
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| TomG
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2001-06-23 29533
Kay: You're right. The lift arms on my Ford 1710 attach below the axles. I meant the lift cylinder arms, which attach above the axles, and I believe can apply the leverage I mentioned. As far as I know, pulling from a proper 3ph attachment is relatively safe, and quite a few 3ph attachments for trailer hitches etc. are available. However, I've heard repeated warnings about pulling from the lift arms alone, loader buckets etc. Without knowing what sort of device is being used, I figured that broadcasting a safety message loudly was a good idea. Safety things don't stick with me very well unless I understand how things work, which is why I got into a bit of 3ph geometry--at least as I understand it. Myself, I don't have a pull implement, so I have the top-plate off my drawbar. I usually keep a 1" clevis in the hole to run chain through so I'm never tempted to pull something from anywhere but the drawbar (which I believe is the safest place). For those who aren't familiar with chain and grab hooks, I'll add that 20' of 3/8" grade 70 chain with grab hooks on either end along with a cable choker does most of my pulling jobs. ....
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